Progressive Clergy Intend to “Normalize” the Sin of Sodomy

Progressive Clergy Intend to “Normalize” the Sin of Sodomy

Progressive Clergy Intend to “Normalize” the Sin of Sodomy

Although any conscious surrender to lust is a mortal sin, some are graver than others. Adultery is graver than simple fornication; incest is graver than adultery; and sins against nature are graver still. Sins against nature are opposed to the purpose of sexual intercourse, and also are “contrary to the natural order of the venereal act as becoming to the human race.”1

Since the practice of sodomy seriously undermines the moral order, it was included among those “sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance.” According to Scripture, these sins are voluntary homicide (Gen. 4:10); sodomy (Gen. 19:13); oppression of widows and orphans (Exod. 22:22ff.); and depriving workers of their just wage (Deut. 24:17ff.; James 5:4).”2

“Who am I to judge?” Opens the Way

At this time of the papal statement “Who am I to judge?” and of Amoris Laetitiae, progressive clergy, including bishops and cardinals, intend to “normalize” not only adultery but homosexual practice as well.

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Since space does not allow us to list all the expressions of sympathy to the homosexual movement made by prominent clergymen, we will cite a few recent examples.

  • April 7: Kevin Joseph Cardinal Farrell−who was recently chosen by Francis to head the Vatican’s Dicastery for the Laity, Family and Life−praises the book, Building a Bridge: How the Catholic Church and the LGBT Community Can Enter into a Relationship of Respect, Compassion, and Sensitivity, by pro-homosexual Jesuit priest Fr. James Martin. He wrote a promotional blurb for the book: “A welcome and much-needed book that will help bishops, priests, pastoral associates, and all church leaders more compassionately minister to the LGBT community.”3

Progressive Clergy Intend to “Normalize” the Sin of Sodomy

  • April 12: Father James Martin was appointed by Pope Francis to the Vatican’s Secretariat for Communications.4
  • April 28: Bishop John Stowe of Lexington, Ky., spoke at the “Catholic” homosexual New Ways Ministry symposium in Chicago.5 This organization has been condemned by the Catholic bishops because of its position against the doctrine of the Catholic Church.6
  • May 5 at 9:20pm: Fr. James Martin, S.J., tweeted about the Saints: “Some of them were probably gay. A certain percentage of humanity is gay, and so were most likely some of the saints. You may be surprised when you get to heaven to be greeted by LGBT men and women.”7
  • May 21: Joseph Cardinal Tobin, Archbishop of Newark, welcomed a LGBT Pilgrimage to the Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart in Newark, N.J.8

The Unscientific Myth of “Homophobia”

The homosexual movement employs words and concepts as semantic weapons to change individuals and society. Concepts like “compassion” are meant to build acceptance, while others, like “homophobia,” are meant to inhibit and even paralyze reactions.

Taking a Principled not a Personal Stand

As practicing Catholics, we are filled with compassion and pray for those who struggle against violent temptation to sin, be it toward homosexual sin or otherwise.

We are conscious of the enormous difference between these individuals who struggle with their weaknesses and strive to overcome them and others who transform their sin into a reason for pride, and try to impose their lifestyle on society as a whole, in flagrant opposition to traditional Christian morality and natural law. However, we pray for them too.

According to the expression attributed to Saint Augustine, we “hate the sin but love the sinner.” And to love the sinner, as the same Doctor of the Church explains, is to wish for him the best we can possibly desire for ourselves, namely, “that he may love God with a perfect affection.” (St. Augustine, Of the Morals of the Catholic Church, No. 49, www.newadvent.org/fathers/1401.htm)

By affixing the “homophobic” label to its opponents, the movement hopes to both intimidate and disqualify its antagonists, brushing off their arguments based on right reason as “irrational fears.”

Those who defend natural law and the Ten Commandments should scorn this dishonest tactic. They should challenge the demagogical use of the “homophobe” label by asking for the scientific basis for this so-called phobia. (It was “discovered” by a pro-homosexual psychologist intent on pushing the homosexual agenda.9)

“International Day against Homophobia and Transphobia”

Unfortunately, the progressive clergy adopted the concepts and tactics of the homosexual movement and even uses churches and religious ceremonies to disseminate them.

Thus, in the month of May, ecumenical ceremonies were held in Protestant temples and Catholic churches, as part of the “International Day against Homophobia and Transphobia.” “Prayer vigils” against “homophobia” were held, for example, in Catholic parishes and shrines in Barcelona, Seville, Milan, Reggio Emilia, Palermo, Bologna, Naples, Padua, Pinerolo, Genoa, Pistoia, and Florence. In Rome, the demonstration was held in the Piazza del Campidoglio.10

Pope Francis’ Influence

Paolo Rodari, vaticanist of Rome’s daily La Repubblica, in the article titled “Porte aperte ai gay, la svolta della Chiesa. In parrocchia le veglie antiomofobia,” (“The Church’s Turnaround: Open Doors to Gays; Anti-Homophobia Vigils Held in Parishes”) explains that the Church’s new stance supporting homosexuality and “transgenderism” is due to Pope Francis. He writes:

“We must ‘welcome and accompany’ homosexuals and trans[genders], ‘this is what Jesus would do today.’ The turning point came after these precise and punctual words by Pope Francis less than a year ago (October 2016), returning from a trip to Georgia and Azerbaijan. And it has infected part of the Catholic world. So much so that from the day after tomorrow until the end of May, different parishes, Italian and not, will join the World Day for the Fight against Homo-Transphobia (the first cities will be Milan and Seville).”11

Where Liberation Theology Comes In

In the city of Reggio Emilia, the “vigil” for homosexuals and transgenders was held in the parish of Regina Pacis, whose pastor, Father Paolo Cugini, is a promoter of Liberation Theology and the subversive movement it inspired in Brazil, Grassroots Ecclesial Communities.12

Thus, in his blog we read a summary of his speech during the “Prayer Vigil for the Victims of Homophobia, Transphobia and All Forms of Discrimination [held at the] Church of Regina Pacis, Reggio Emilia, 14 May 2017.” In a language typical of Liberation Theology, Father Cugini says that “no one is judged…because ‘God is not a respecter of persons’ (Acts 10:34).” And continuing in the same vein, “God stands on the side of the little ones, the marginalized, scorned and discriminated persons.”13 The fact that a person is in a public state of sin does not matter.

He confirms the vaticanist Paolo Rodari’s consideration above about the influence of Pope Francis in the change that is occurring in the Church regarding the homosexual movement. “Our strength” says Fr. Cugini, “comes from the words of Pope Francis on the subject, uttered a while ago. These persons must be welcomed, not pushed away. We are going in this direction thanks to him.”14

Catholic Laymen Promote an Act of Reparation

Such kindness toward the homosexuals and transgenders was not extended to Catholics who care about the Ten Commandments and strive to live according to the Faith. Let us see how a group of lay Catholics from Reggio Emilia was treated when they were promoting a penance procession on June 3, the same day a homosexual parade was held in the city.

These laymen placed themselves under the protection of Blessed Giovanna Scopelli, a fifteenth century Carmelite born in Reggio Emilia, who led a life of mortification for the Church.

Their initiative, soon joined by more than 1,500 people, received the support of Raymond Cardinal Burke, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, and the theologian Fr. Antonio Livi, a former professor at the Lateran University.15

From the Diocese of Reggio Emilia however, the initiative received only criticism. Fr. Goccini, in charge of the Diocese’s Youth Pastoral outreach, went so far as to say that “praying in reparation for the sins of others is an act of presumption.”16 So, would Jesus on the Cross, praying for his enemies and persecutors, be committing an act of presumption? What of Our Lady, who appeared in Fatima and asked for sacrifices as “an act of reparation for the sins with which He is offended” and “for the conversion of sinners?” And what to say of so many saints that made sacrifices for sinners?

Bishop Massimo Camisasca, while allowing a parish in his diocese to be used in a ceremony to support the homosexual movement, made it clear that he does not support the group of lay people who promoted the penitential procession. One reason given is that they did not ask his permission to hold a religious procession. One would expect him, in his apostolic zeal, to seek them out and find a way to hold such a meritorious act of penance.17

Keep on Fighting

The Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ, through a mysterious Divine permission, has gone through innumerable crises to test the fidelity of the good and increase their merits (cf. 1 Cor. 11:19). However, despite the seriousness of the Arian crisis and the Protestant Revolt, it can be said that neither equaled the present crisis in its gravity or extension.

Progressive Clergy Intend to “Normalize” the Sin of Sodomy

Our Lady of the Apocalypse, who hurls the chained Lucifer into the abyss of hell.

But the Mystical Spouse of Christ has the promise of indefectibility. Even when Our Lord seems to sleep in the boat of Peter (Matt. 8:25-26), He is actually watching over His Church to prevent Her from losing courage and to keep Her doctrine and Sacraments within the reach of those who have true zeal and love for the Church.

Therefore, we must not lose heart in the struggle to defend the doctrine and morals which come to us from the Apostles and are enshrined in the traditional Magisterium of the Popes and Councils, in catechisms and in treatises by great theologians.

Let us keep on fighting while waiting for Divine intervention. Let us be ready, for the Apocalypse says: “Behold, I am coming soon. I bring with me the recompense I will give to each according to his deeds” (Rev. 22:12).

May Mary Most Holy, who alone defeated all heresies, help us to remain faithful in the midst of the storm.

Footnotes

  1. Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, II-II, q. 154, a. 11.
  2. Cf. Dom Gregorio Manise, O.S.B., s.v. “Sins That Cry Out To Heaven For Vengeance,” in Dictionary of Moral Theology (Westminster, Md.: The Newman Press, 1962), p. 1139.
  3. David Gibson, “Top Vatican and US church officials back new gay-friendly book,” April 7, 2017, http://religionnews.com/2017/04/07/top-vatican-and-us-church-officials-back-new-gay-friendly-book/, accessed May 29, 2017.
  4. Ashley McKinless, “Father James Martin appointed by Pope Francis to Vatican department for communications,” https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2017/04/12/father-james-martin-appointed-pope-francis-vatican-department-communications, accessed May 31, 2017.
  5. Bishop John Stowe leads prayer at LGBT Catholic gathering, https://www.ncronline.org/news/people/bishop-john-stowe-leads-prayer-lgbt-catholic-gathering, accessed May 29, 2017.
  6. U.S. Bishops Condemn Homosexual Activist ‘New Ways Ministry’ and Warn the Faithful, http://www.catholic.org/news/national/story.php?id=35364, accessed June 14, 2017 (emphasis added).
  7. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/some-saints-were-probably-gay-vatican-jesuit-advisor, accessed June 5, 2017.
  8. “LGBT Pilgrimage to the Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart in Newark, NJ on May 21, 2017,” http://www.lgbt-ipc.org/newark-pilgrimage–2017.html#.WSV-yDZUvls.facebook, accessed May 29, 2017.
  9. Cf. TFP Committee for American Issues, Defending a Higher Law – Why We Must Resist Same-Sex “Marriage” and the Homosexual Movement (Spring Grove, Penn.: The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property, 2004), p. 35.
  10. Cf. Riforma.it, http://riforma.it/it/articolo/2017/05/12/sveglie-contro-lomofobia, assessed May 29, 2017.
  11. http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2017/05/10/news/porte_aperte_ai_gay_la_svolta_della_chiesa-165099044/, accessed May 29, 2017.
  12. Cf. Un nuovo modo di essere chiesa. Le comunità ecclesiali di base in Brasile. Storia e caratteristiche di un’esperienza di evangelizzazione, ilmiolibro self publishing, 2016, http://www.lafeltrinelli.it/libri/cugini-paolo/un-nuovo-modo-essere-chiesa/9788892313088, accessed May 30, 2017.
  13. https://regiron.blogspot.it/2017/05/riflessioni-dalla-veglia.html, accessed May 30, 2017.
  14. Veglia contro la violenza omofoba a Reggio Emilia. Un parroco sotto il tiro degli ultrà cattolici, http://www.gionata.org/veglia-contro-la-violenza-omofoba-a-reggio-emilia-un-parroco-sotto-il-tiro-degli-ultra-cattolici/, accessed May 29, 2017.
  15. Comitato “Beata Giovanna Scopelli”, https://www.facebook.com/groups/314714742282355/, Andrea Zambrano Gay pride Il vescovo e il comando, 29-05-2017, http://www.lanuovabq.it/it/articoli-gay-prideil-vescovoe-il-comando-19990.htm, accessed May 31, 2017.
  16. Marco Tosatti, REGGIO EMILIA, GAY PRIDE, PREGHIERA DI RIPARAZIONE. CHE IMBARAZZO PER LA CHIESA QUANDO I LAICI SI MUOVONO… http://www.marcotosatti.com/2017/05/26/reggio-emilia-gay-pride-preghiera-di-riparazione-che-imbarazzo-per-la-chiesa-quando-i-laici-si-muovono/, accessed May 29, 2017.
  17. Il vescovo Camisasca critico sulla processione anti-gay Pride: “Non c’è stata condivisione” http://www.reggioreport.it/2017/05/processione-anti-gay-pride-critico-il-vescovo-camisasca-non-ce-stata-condivisione/, accessed May 29, 2017.

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  • Joseph Jaglowicz

    Jesus never addressed the subject of sexual orientation or same-sex attraction. On the other hand, Jesus approved of slavery, even going so far as to sanction the “beating” (or, in certain cases, the “severe beating”) of disobedient slaves (Luke 12:45-48). Vatican II bishops condemned slavery; JPII agreed. Who was right, Jesus or the bishops?

  • glenbo

    Why would God create men and women with same-sex attractions if He didn’t want them to respond to those attractions?

    • Mark Bradshaw

      God did NOT create mankind to have same-sex attractions. He created mankind to have heterosexual (opposite sex) attractions. Mankind has perverted His design and has instead chosen (for the most part) to live and behave contrary to His design and laws.

      Using your “reasoning”, one could just as easily ask, “Why would God create mankind to have murderous thoughts if He didn’t want them to murder?” Your inference is ludicrous and nonsensical. The simple answer to both questions is the rebellious nature of mankind.

      • glenbo

        >>”God did NOT create mankind to have same-sex attractions. “<<

        You already failed to prove God exists.
        You admitted you have no clue where sexual attractions come from.
        You have no say in the matter.

        • Mark Bradshaw

          Uh, NO. I actually pointed to historical evidence of God’s existence. YOU are the one that has failed to prove He doesn’t exist. The burden of proof is on YOU to support your claim.

          The issue has NEVER been about attractions, but is about behavior. And just because I don’t have an answer to your specific question, that does NOT disprove God’s existence. Your “AH HA!” assertion is a NON-SEQUITUR.

          I have NEVER asserted to have a say about attractions. You have presented yet ANOTHER STRAW MAN.

          • glenbo

            >>”YOU are the one that has failed to prove He doesn’t exist.”<<

            The burden of proof is on the one claiming he exists.
            That is YOU.
            You have FAIL to meet this proof.
            Books and tablets are NOT proof.
            Going in circles.

          • Mark Bradshaw

            I HAVE proved He exists – or at least provided evidence of His existence.

            WHY aren’t boos and tablets proof? What evidence do we have that ANY historical figure/person existed?

          • glenbo

            Insisting is not proving.

          • glenbo

            >>”WHY aren’t boos and tablets proof?”<<

            So the Quran is true? Allah exists? Mohammad exists?

          • Mark Bradshaw

            Don’t know. I have not read it. I don’t doubt that Mohammad existed.

          • glenbo

            So Quran is true?
            Allah is the true God?
            And Mohammad is the true prophet?

          • Mark Bradshaw

            That is NOT what I said and you know it. I simply stated the books are used to provide an account of history. Tablets are a written accouterments of history. I NEVER stated that every book or written text is true. So, your assertion is BS, just like all of your other assertions.

          • WaylonII

            See what I mean? He will change every thing you say and twist it around to mean something completely different, a tactic often used by liberally biased atheists…

          • Mark Bradshaw

            Indeed!

          • Heytherenow…

            And he keeps coming back for more. Doesn’t know when to shut up and move on. Looking more foolish every time he keep posting his comments here.

          • WaylonII

            Exactly! He is a glutton for punishment. He is making an ass out of himself and without any help!

          • glenbo

            Actually, I enjoy watching religion implode.
            THAT’S why I “come back for more.”
            If there weren’t religious fundamental brainwashed bigots…like Mark, there would be NO terrorism.

          • Heytherenow…

            Lol! Ok, I had enough with you, you are certainly a lost cause. Bye, have a great evening.

          • glenbo

            >>”Lol! Ok, I had enough with you, you are certainly a lost cause.”<<

            So is religion.

          • glenbo

            Dude!
            YOU said God can be PROVEN to exist ONLY by books…not you are back tracking?

          • Mark Bradshaw

            Uh, NO I didn’t. Please STOP putting words in my mouth. I said that books prove His existence, NOT that ONLY books prove His existence. Please learn to read AND comprehend.

          • glenbo

            >>”I said that books prove His existence, “<<
            So Allah and Mohamad must be the true God and the true Prophet.
            Because a book proved their existence.

          • Mark Bradshaw

            You have problems with reading comprehension. I said that books prove the existence of God. NOT that He exists because books say He does. Please STOP asking idiotic questions and making idiotic assertions.

          • glenbo

            >>” I said that books prove the existence of God. NOT that He exists because books say He does. “<<

            Then how do you know that God exists?

          • Mark Bradshaw

            NEITHER….God exists AND books (historical tects, tablets, manuscripts, etc…) prove it.

          • glenbo

            Neither?
            You are not making any sense.

            So Allah exists and Mohammad is his prophet?
            Because the Quran proves it.

          • Last Man Standing

            You will have a hard time proving anything to glenbo. He thrives on arguments and will contradict everything you say and even put words in your mouth, and twist around everything you say, just to keep you arguing. He is one sad case….

          • glenbo

            You can’t prove anything without proof.

            On another note, I like what you said in your profile:

            >>”you want only what will give you pleasure.” <<

            Is that why you worship God?

          • Mark Bradshaw

            Agree 100%

          • WaylonII

            LMS is correct. glenbo loves to incite arguments, it’s all he has to make himself feel like a man. I gave him a chance, but when I cornered him with facts, he started putting words in my mouth and changing everything I said, and that is because he can’t handle the truth, and has the mentality of a child.

          • glenbo

            You had NO facts.
            I called you out on your lack thereof and you blocked me.

          • Last Man Standing

            I think he is having sexuality issues, and trying to decide which bathroom to use, so he will be irritable until he decides. Lol!!

          • glenbo

            Wrong, idiot. I am not gay or trans. I am straight, married and have two kids. I have LGBT relatives, friends, and business associates.
            Your bigotry has corrupted your judgment.
            Why is it wrong to fight for the rights of those you love and care about?
            You must be a Christian.

          • Heytherenow…

            You have kids?

          • glenbo

            Yes.
            I am heterosexually married with 2 kids.
            I have LGBT relatives, friends and business associates.
            What’s your point?

          • Heytherenow…

            You constantly repeating yourself that you are heterosexually married with 2 kids. Are you trying to convince yourself of that?

          • WaylonII

            He is still trying to decide which bathroom the use.

          • Heytherenow…

            Lol! Poor child, so confused.

          • Last Man Standing

            Kids are easily confused. He will never grow up.

          • Heytherenow…

            I concur.

          • glenbo

            Why do you doubt that?

          • WaylonII

            He adopted kids, as he is still insecure about his own sexuality.

          • glenbo

            How can you possibly know this?

          • Mark Bradshaw

            Yup. Agree 100%. Glenbo does put words into people’s mouths, makes illogical assertions and makes baseless accsations.

      • WaylonII

        Great post and well said.

        • glenbo

          So YOU are also obsessed with what people do with their genitals?
          That’s just plain creepy to judge people by what they do in bed.
          Fncking creepy.
          Welcome to the Creepy Christian Club Mark already belongs to.

          • Heytherenow…

            Is there something wrong with you? You sounds so creepy and out of touch.

          • glenbo

            Why is defending one’s LGBT relatives, friends and business associates creepy?
            Are your antiquated religious beliefs out of touch? Or are you happy that God drowned children in Noah’s flood?
            And if you have an “in touch” reason why LGBT people should be marginalized, I’ll gladly hear it.
            Go.

          • Heytherenow…

            What you are defending, condoning and promoting is the unnatural behavior of these LGBT. How they are disallowing our children to have a mind of their own, allowing these LGBT staffs and teachers indoctrinating our kids in school with their BS lies. Homosexuality is not normal. Even the atheist knows that.

          • glenbo

            Are sexual attractions chosen as will?

            What is your definition of “natural?”

            What evidence children are being “indoctrinated?” Or are you telling lies?

          • Heytherenow…

            Do you really need to be told what the definition of natural means? Oh, you are certainly a lost case.
            What evidence children are being “indoctrinated?” again you are out of touch with reality.

          • glenbo

            >>”Do you really need to be told what the definition of natural means? “<>”What evidence children are being “indoctrinated?” again you are out of touch with reality.”<<

            What, no evidence? Are you telling lies?

          • Heytherenow…

            Ok, I will you give one evidence: There was this article the other day that a 1st grader was sent to the principal’s office because she referred to a boy as a him, who was her friend in Kindergarten and was reprimanded for acknowledging him as a male. She had no idea what she did wrong and was very confused. She was being indoctrinated to look at that person as a it.
            Natural as in sex, it is between a male and a female, not between two men or between two women.

          • glenbo

            >>”There was this article the other day that a 1st grader was sent to the principal’s office because she referred to a boy as a him,”<>”Natural as in sex, it is between a male and a female, not between two men or between two women.”<<

            So homosexual attractions are not "natural?"
            Where do they come from?
            Satan?

          • Heytherenow…

            California 1st grader sent to principal’s office for misgendering classmate. Google it. You will find it.

            Homosexual attractions are not “natural.”
            Where do homosexuals come from. The closet.

          • glenbo

            >>”California 1st grader sent to principal’s office for misgendering classmate.”<>”Where do homosexuals come from. The closet.”<<

            Attractions?

          • Heytherenow…

            That comes from within themselves. Just like pedophile are attracted to little children. Just like some people are attracted to animals sexually. Not natural.

          • glenbo

            >>”That comes from within themselves.”<<

            Obviously.
            But why?

          • Heytherenow…

            Why? I don’t know why. Every individual that does these things has their reason, so ask them.

          • glenbo

            >>”Why? I don’t know why.”<<

            If you have no clue why some people have homosexual attractions, you have no business denouncing gay people and denying them rights.

          • Heytherenow…

            Just because I do not condone their lifestyle I am not denying them their rights! I don’t have to accept their lifestyle. That is my rights to do so.

            Why do rapists rape innocent victims? Why do child molesters molests
            little children? Why do some people have sexual relation with animals? If you have no clue why some people do these things, then you have no business denouncing these sick perverted individuals and denying them rights!

          • WaylonII

            Why do ignorant liberals thrive on arguments? Why do liberals twist everything around that other people say? Why are liberals gay? Who knows…they’re liberals, they don’t need any other reason! LOL!!

          • Heytherenow…

            Lol! You got that right.

          • glenbo

            >>”Why do liberals twist everything around that other people say?”<<

            Explain what I am "twisting around," please.
            Don't you understand sarcasm?

          • glenbo

            >>”Just because I do not condone their lifestyle I am not denying them their rights!”<>”Why do rapists rape innocent victims? Why do child molesters molests”<<

            These things harm people. Same-sex relationships harms nobody.
            Your hatred and bigotry for innocent law abiding hard working taxy paying citizens who have done ho harm is deplorable and without reason..

          • Heytherenow…

            LGBT do harm little children. They inflict mental cruelty and child abuse when they indoctrinated them with their BS lies and are not allow to have a mind of their own. It is unfortunate that these LGBT are running the school system so they can continue to inflict these child abuse on our children. Instead of teaching these kids their ABC’s and the 123’s they are force to listen to story such as My Name is Jazz, which does not serve any purpose for these kids future. So, don’t go telling me that these perverted gay people do not harm anybody.
            They do and it is called mental cruelty and, in some cases they do inflict physical abuse as well on these children.
            Your hatred toward our today kids is deplorable. People like you make me sick. So hateful, especially to the little ones. They are being deprived to be themselves because of liberals like you!

          • glenbo

            >>”LGBT do harm little children.”<<

            You are a fundamental nut case.

          • Heytherenow…

            LGBT is just a make believe lifestyle and it is not healthy for the children mentally and emotionally, but rather, a lot of confusion. Yes, it is harmful to the little ones.

          • glenbo

            >>”LGBT is just a make believe lifestyle and it is not healthy for the children mentally and emotionally, but rather, a lot of confusion. Yes, it is harmful to the little ones.”<<

            EXACTLY!
            This is why it is illegal for a gay person to have children!
            Thank you!

            My children are so much healthier growing up in my heterosexual lifestyle.

          • Heytherenow…

            Huh? I thought you were all for the gay people to have kids?
            Are your kids being brought up that the lifestyle of homosexual is not normal? Along with same sex marriage being abnormal?

          • glenbo

            >>”Are your kids being brought up that the lifestyle of homosexual is not normal? Along with same sex marriage being abnormal?”<<

            If being raised by gay parents harms children, why is it legal to do so?
            Define "normal."

          • WaylonII

            I blocked the fool because he is so out of touch with reality that he keeps changing everything that everyone else says and make it mean something completely different. Too weird…

          • glenbo

            >>”he keeps changing everything that everyone else says “<<
            You lie.

        • Mark Bradshaw

          Thanks.

  • douglas gray

    I would like to tell you a story of how one Pastor dealt with this issue, as the gay couple themselves told me this story. They showed up at the Church, not hiding their sexual orientation. He guided them spiritually, but never mentioned their being gay. After years of discipleship, they came to him and said, “we are still not happy.”
    Then he told them to try to practice abstinence, to stop gay sexual activity, and live together as spiritual friends, channeling their energy into prayer. After two months, they came back to him and said, “Thank you, now we are truly happy.”

    Doing the Will of God always brings happiness into one’s life; following the dictates of sensuality can give momentary pleasure, but not true happiness.

    For homosexuals, it is best to be patient, earn their trust, and give them time. Condemnation of the gay lifestyle is mostly ineffective and counter-productive. Rather welcome them with unconditional love, and give them time to grow weary of gay sexuality, which can happen fairly quickly. This is the approach that Pope Francis favors.
    When Jesus was with the adulterous woman, he gave us the model, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” After the prospective stone thrower slunk away, he said, “Nor do I condemn thee. Go and sin no more.”
    When non-Catholics observe the sins of many Priests, and then the Church condemns the gay lifestyle, the common reaction is, “What pretentious hypocrites.” Yet so many continue to cast verbal stones, to no avail.

  • ZorroRules

    There are all kinds of illnesses, and homosexuals are of course seriously mentally ill, or damaged by sexual abuse. In any event, original sin is partly if not fully to blame. The sin is not in the affliction, it is in behavior, or lustful thinking, in other words, by consenting to lustful thinking or acting out. All are called to chastity, regardless of mental sickness, or physical brokenness. The rules are exactly the same or everyone. All are called to be celebate, except those in marriage, and they are called to appropriate marital relationships chaste within the confines of matrimony. Marriage is not a license for sex, marriage is a sacrament in which the two become one flesh and it exists for the sake of children first and foremost. It is absolutely clear that it requires a complimentary relationship in the physical realm, which is abundantly clear by way of anatomy and the normal outcome of sexual union. Homosexuals are, by reason of defect, generally not capable of marriage any more than a eunuch. Not all are called to marriage, and therefore, not all are meant to have sex.

  • Darren

    This is the Revised Standard Version of Acts 10:34-35

    Catholic Study Bible

    34 And Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I perceive that God shows no partiality, 35 but in every nation any one who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

    This is a far cry from the translation by Fr Cugini. And isn’t it like some to take one passage of the Bible and not reading what came before and after to get the meaning?

    “Do not judge”. Does that also mean I’m not suppose to judge MY actions? Don’t I judge what to do everyday? Don’t I make a judgement when I say “Do not judge”?

    People want to use this from the Bible when its convenient. It is not convenient to say “God make them male and female”.

    Mary, Queen of heaven and earth, pray for us.

    • Janice Marler

      It says that God made them male and female but He, also made some of them with feelings for the same sex.

      • Janice Marler

        Also, it’s certainly not common, but some people are born with both male and female parts. I saw this personally when working at the hospital about 50 years ago- on the floor for very young children with problems. This infant was becoming male or female.

  • Frank Cicero

    The rosary defeats all evil, thank you Mother Mary for this gift that we may use any there at any time. History has a habit of repeating itself and the rosary is the cure of all dis-ease within the just.

  • Chris Lilly

    A most gross display of deviant behavior and false compassion. The Holy Roman Church is in danger from enemies within and without.

    • Johann du Toit

      As it always has been. The Church will prevail because Christ promised the Gates of Hell will never prevail against it. However I am still concerned that many confused souls may still be put in jeopardy as a result of this.

    • blueskygal

      In the link to the video I posted he has a video on this very topic – of how spiritually detrimental the V2 church’s acceptance of homosexuality is to homosexuals.

  • Anthony Rader

    The problem with homosexuality and lesbianism is that it has become normalized in our society because the Gay movement has supplied the public with all the rules and definitions. Much of what is believed about homosexuality and lesbianism today is simple fabrication. A man living in a woman’s body is an example of that. Scientific bunk! The movement has become very strong and outspoken sweeping up many who wish to show sympathy for the plight of gays and these people include clergy members. And, let’s face it, who would like to be in the LGBT shoes. There is the complaint by gays that the church doesn’t welcome them. To me it is more than a social problem although I don’t think they see it that way. Sympathy is an emotion though. People who allow emotions and feelings guide them will ultimately only find sorrow. The church, guided by the Holy Spirit and reason, has a long tradition of teachings. It does not readily embark on social crusades for a reason. The women’s rights movement has been a disaster morally and likewise the gay rights movement. The church knows all people deserve respect, but some acts of people don’t need to be accepted. If there are those who can’t handle that, so be it. Jesus always called a spade a spade and I think he expects us to as well…respectfully.

    • MARIO VELORO

      I definitely share your thoughts. Expression of sympathy will not do anything but aggravate the “confusion.” Silence would have been the better choice and the lesser evil no matter how grave the criticism may be. The Church should confine itself in its objective and traditional teachings of moral and sin and avoid categorizing who are “sinners” and who are “saints.”

  • Convert

    God bless you!
    PAx et bonem!
    PAx Christi

  • 441019

    These progressive clergy will have to answer to God for trying to normalize sodomy. Acceptance of sodomy is not an act of compassion–it will lead to the loss of souls. Our Lord spoke to St. Catherine of Siena about the sin of sodomy. He said: “… For Me this sin against nature is so abominable that for it alone five cities were destroyed by virtue of the judgment of My Divine Justice. We could no longer bear their iniquity. It is disgusting to the devils, not because evil displeases them or because they find pleasure in good, but rather because their nature is angelic and flees upon seeing such a repulsive act being committed . . .”

  • Janice Marler

    To start with I must say that I am against gay marriage. However, I am not against gay people. Nor should you be. God made them as He made us. Our daughter is a lesbian and she won’t go to church because the Catholic Church won’t accept her. She was brought up with 14 years of Catholic school training and knows that she isn’t welcome in the religion. Our family is very religious and this is totally unacceptable! Homosexuality itself is not a sin! Unfortunately practicing it is. Perhaps the Church should be more Christlike and welcome them. Not welcome their sin, but welcome them. We all sin but are allowed into the church without stares. We, also, go to Holy Communion sins and all ( Don’t tell me everyone at Mass- and people don’t stay in their seats as they did in the past- is sinless). Perhaps if we would accept gay people in the church and treat them as equals they would begin to see where we are coming from, too. I don’t know but I do know that we are losing an awful lot of people that could be very good Catholics if given a chance.

    • 441019

      Janice Marler: You said that “We go to Holy Communion sins and all.” Anyone who receives Holy Communion who is in a state of mortal sin is committing another serious sin. One must be in a state of grace to receive Communion, which we are taught is the Body and Blood of Christ.
      I don’t know of anyone who is not accepted by the Catholic Church. The Church does not condemn anyone for having same-sex attraction. But homosexual acts are wrong, and the Church cannot approve of sin. The purpose of the Church is to save souls, not to approve of sin. The Virgin Mary said that more souls go to hell for sins of the flesh than for any other reason.

      • Janice Marler

        I agree with everything that you said ( other than homosexuals being accepted by the church). In fact I said it myself in so many words. No one, of any persuasion , should receive Our Lord being in the state of mortal sin. I’m not asking the Church to accept any sin, just the sinner. And, it should make the sinner feel welcome.

        • 441019

          I agree with you; but I am not aware that the Church does not make the sinner feel welcome.

          • Janice Marler

            Perhaps you are right. Maybe our daughter is just too self conscious. She definitely doesn’t feel welcome there but, maybe, it’s because she doesn’t feel equal- and she isn’t. It’s the marriage situation. She sees it as inequality and the church sees it as sin. Therefore, she probably feels as though everyone is looking at er as a sinner. In reality she hasn’t any partner and no prospects in sight but knows she would if someone presented herself.

          • FourthEye

            Janice, that’s a tough one indeed! I empathize with your daughter, though I am not gay, because I am a sinner. Christ said “I came to heal the sick, the well don’t need a doctor”. Perhaps it would help to remind her of a few things: The Catholic church is not so much a church of the Righteous (we’ll leave that to the various Protestant groups) as a Church of the Forgiven. Though life in the Church should encourage and help us towards perfection, we are members of the Church precisely BECAUSE we are sinners and in need of salvation.

            Here’s something else she may find it useful to consider: she’s obviously struggling with the fact that she has homosexual feelings pulling her one way, and her loyalty to Christ pulling her the other. That’s not easy at all, two such powerful forces pulling us in opposite directions! As Christ said ‘you cannot serve two masters’. But she’s not alone. Nearly all of us have some core weakness that we struggle with.

            The LGBT lobby make a big deal of the fact the Church teaches that homosexual acts are at variance with the will of God for humanity. When we fully grasp the miracle of how life is produced, how it is the closest thing we come to being like God in an act of creation, we begin to understand some of the issue with sins of a sexual nature. All of the things considered ‘sins of the flesh’ in one way or another are a kind of burlesque or pantomime of the act of creating new life within a sanctified marriage.

            So your daughter may find it consoling to realize she’s far from alone, and it is not just homosexuality that is an issue: while it is true people may struggle with their homosexuality because it can get between them and God, many non-homosexuals have an equal struggle against their natures or desires: people like me, who though happily married, find it very hard not to look at other women with lust, or to desire extra-marital relationships. I am fairly confident I would never actually have a fling with another woman, but Christ said “I tell you if you look at another woman with lust, you have committed adultery with her in your heart” Tough words, and a hard act to follow for us weak humans. Yet we must try. So there’s people like me who have to struggle all their lives against that. You can extend that out to people who would like a threesome or foursome, to get divorced and start ‘afresh’, or who are attracted to children, or make money their God. The list is endless. So despite LGBT propaganda, the Church has not unreasonably just singled out homosexuality for its special attention, it is part of a wider spectrum of human nature that can get between us and our relationship with God, and we all have some desires or wishes that we would like to fulfill but are contrary to the will of God and that we need to work to prevent a rupture between us and God.

            The response of many LGBT people (thanks to LGBT propaganda – ‘you won’t be welcome in the Church’) is to reject Christ by rejecting His church. Again, your daughter would not be alone there, because anyone who wishes to do things they know to be contrary to God’s wishes for us may find themselves giving God the heave-ho in order to be free to pursue those desires.

            Remember that in Eden, after the Fall, God went walking in the garden and Adam and Eve ‘hid’ themselves from God. Now surely God knew where they were and that they were ‘hiding’ (as if one can hide from God) and ACTIVELY sought them out! So here we have the first sinners on earth, after committing the first sins in history, and yet God is actively seeking them out. I guess God still actively seeks out sinners today, in order to save them.

            God asked them why they were hiding (though He surely knew very well). They replied ‘because we were ashamed’. So, because they knew they were in breach of their relationship with God – THEY HID FROM HIM, STAYED AWAY FROM HIM. There’s a lot to learn from that!

            God then asks them ‘WHO told you to be ashamed?’ This is a fascinating response. He didn’t ask perhaps a more obvious question such as ‘ashamed of what?’ His actual question suggests He is saying that He knows the idea of being so ashamed of ourselves that we hide away from God didn’t originate with Adam and Eve, but from some third party. Who had they been listening to that told them to hide from God out of shame and that God wouldn’t want anything to do with them? The only other known character, known ‘speaking part’, in this story is the serpent, the one that tempted Eve to eat the apple in the first place. So the devil turns out to be the one behind this whole idea of ‘stay away from God, He’ll think you are shameful and won’t want anything to do with you’. And unfortunately, people listen to that wily old snake instead of Christ “I came to heal the sick” and so they also sabotage their own chances of salvation through a conscious rejection of God, who is trying to help them.

            All sincere Christians have been there. We all have our one vice that we struggle to control and that always has the potential to get between us and God. Yet God actively seeks us out, we just need to respond to Him “come to me as you are”. That does not of course mean that we are condoning sin (i.e what is contrary to the Will of God) but that unlike Adam and Eve, we do not allow our sin to dominate us so that we listen to the devil and hide away from God. As long as we’re alive in this life, God’s mercy seems boundless, and ‘heaven rejoices more at the return of one sinner (the lost sheep, the found coin etc) than all the Righteous’.

            It’s up to you, but I would tell your daughter go to God, go to Church, pray about her feelings, leave the rest up to God who knows the heart and minds of each of us better than we do. Maybe she has scruples about going to communion – so do I – ok, go to confession, don’t listen to the serpent (Confession is about reconciliation with God, being sorry, shaking hands and making up), keep trying. Someone once said that God tests each of us in our lives to see if we will give up the one thing we most want for His sake. Maybe for your daughter that is the desire to do homosexual acts. For me, a man, it’s the desire to sleep around with other women, or to fantasize about them. It’s not easy to say no to one’s core desires, but not impossible with the grace of God either.

          • jesspinosa

            Janice, why would people stare at your daughter? I wonder if she gives them a reason to stare. Or it could just be that the self-righteous gossip mongers (who receive communion!) are just doing their self-appointed “job.” Prayers for you and your daughter.

          • Janice Marler

            I don’t believe that they do stare at her, she just feels that they do. TY for your prayers.

          • Peter Santos

            Perhaps this is something that she needs to resolve within herself. To realize that God loves her despite her sins and inclinations. To realize that God really does want her and has died for her.

          • geoffreysmith1

            If your daughter does not have a same sex partner, how do the members of the congregation know that she is a lesbian? I assume that they know she is because they stare at her. Is she physically different in some way from a ‘normal’ woman?

          • Janice Marler

            I don’t believe that they do know. She is just imagining it. She looks like any other woman in her early thirties.

        • Peter Santos

          I think the problem lies on the terms of acceptance. The Church says we accept you on Christ’s terms. The LGBT says you have to accept us on our terms. And yet SSA people who have come to the Church on Christ’s terms have found peace.

          Your daughter will find peace only when she realizes that peace and joy can only be found in the Will of God.

          • Guest4ever

            EXACTLY!!!

        • Guest4ever

          Homosexuals, and even murderers, are all accepted into the Church. But, we must all remember what Christ, himself, said to the woman being stoned for adultery (no less). “Go and sin no more.”

          Christ wants, IMHO, to be ASKED for His forgiveness. He will give us the graces we need. I know I need all the grace I can get; I’m definitely a sinner!!! BUT, we must not murder or perform homosexual acts and behaviors, aka sodomy.

          The problem is: do I love you enough to help you get to heaven, or will I just take the easy way out and let you, probably, slide into hell?

          • Janice Marler

            Some gays don’t believe that there is anything to ask forgiveness for. God made them (emo tionally, spiritually, intellectually and psychologically as well as physically) as He made them. What is there to forgive?

    • Guest4ever

      Try checking out the website, N.A.R.T.H. It apparently has been very helpful to lots of people. God Bless.

  • John Raimondi

    In discussions about gays and the Church and in this article, we are reminded that Jesus ate with sinners and entertained those who were considered outcasts. This seems to be a common argument for gay ‘marriage’ and all things gay. And while I agree that He came for sinners (myself included) He is often heard as saying: “Go and sin no more.” Everyone seems to be forgetting that part. I believe that we are in the midst of the onslaught of the Anti Church, where all things evil are made to look good and vice versa. The true Church needs us now more than ever.

    • 441019

      I agree with you. His purpose in eating with sinners was to save them, not to excuse their sins. But today we are told that “compassion” means to condone sin. The Virgin Mary said that more souls go to hell for sins of the flesh than for any other sin.

    • Janice Marler

      I am against the Anti-Church, too and there definitely is one. However, please read what I just posted.